ERA23LA065 · Piper PA-28-181
Aviation Consulting Expertise Piper PA-28-181 · Accident: fire/smoke (non-impact) while standing
Event
- NTSB case
- ERA23LA065
- Event typeAccident: someone killed or seriously injured, or the aircraft substantially damaged (NTSB definition). Incident: an occurrence that affected or could have affected safety, short of that. Glossary
- Accident
- InvestigationHow far the investigation had got when the record was published: preliminary, ongoing, final or completed. Unknown where the source does not say. Glossary
- Completed
- API-reported fatalities
- 0 · all aircraft and ground
- Ground fatalities
- 0
- OperationWhat kind of flying it was, grouped by the rules it flew under: airline (US Part 121), air taxi and commuter (Part 135), general aviation (Part 91 and similar), military or government. Glossary
- General aviation
- WeatherVisual meteorological conditions (VMC): good enough to fly by looking outside. Instrument conditions (IMC): cloud or low visibility, flying by instruments. Glossary
- Visual Meteorological Cond
Piper PA-28-181
- Aircraft type
- Piper PA-28
- Category
- Airplane
- RegistrationThe aircraft's tail number, such as N12345 or G-ABCD. Registrations are reissued, so the same one years apart can be a different aircraft. Glossary
- N8129M
- Operator
- Aviation Consulting Expertise
- Onboard fatalities
- Unknown
- Route
- From not recordedTo not recorded
- Aircraft age
- About 40 years (built 1982)
- Flight rulesThe regulations the flight operated under: in the US, Part 91 (general aviation), Part 121 (airlines), Part 135 (air taxi and commuter) and others; for flights abroad, the NTSB's coarser commercial or non-commercial code. Glossary
- Part 91: General Aviation
- Phase of flightThe stage of the flight when things started to go wrong: standing, taxi, takeoff, initial climb, en route, maneuvering, approach or landing. Glossary
- Standing · engine(s) start-up
- Defining eventThe single coded event the NTSB judges best describes what happened (records from 2008 on). Older records name the first occurrence in the sequence instead. Glossary
- Fire/smoke (non-impact)
- DamageDestroyed: beyond practical repair. Substantial: damage that affects the structure, performance or handling and normally needs major repair. Minor: less than that. Glossary
- Substantial
Cause areas
- Aircraft › Aircraft systems
Approximate · Coordinates as recorded by the NTSB; no uncertainty radius is established.
NTSB narrative
In preparation for the instructional flight, the flight instructor primed the engine with fuel several times and attempted to start it; each time the engine would get close to starting but would not run. On the fourth start attempt, he did not prime the engine and white smoke started to emanate from the engine compartment. The flight instructor then shut off the fuel valve and electrical equipment and then exited the airplane to investigate. He discharged a fire extinguisher into the air intake without effect. The smoke increased in intensity before a fire broke out and within minutes engulfed the engine compartment and cockpit area before eventually being extinguished by airport fire rescue. Postaccident examination of the airplane revealed electrical arcing damage to an alternator wire and surrounding structure. Pitting consistent with electrical arcing was discovered on the engine mounts and the alternator wire displayed features consistent with electrical arcing damage that was located near a fuel line. The clamp that affixed the wire was severely damaged and melted. Based on this information, the wire likely chafed over time until metal-to-metal contact was made as the wire was energized, which resulted in a fire that was fed by fuel from a nearby fuel line.
Probable cause
An engine fire caused by chafing and subsequent electrical arcing of the alternator wire near a fuel source.
Verbatim NTSB analysis and probable cause from the NTSB dataset
Sources
NTSB record ERA23LA065
- Event ID
- 20221118106314
- Case number
- ERA23LA065
- Dataset
- full-current
- Source SHA-256
- 5cf380f0061817c0331a6b2d8cc7e0ee3a79bea469a1001dc5c10e56f35f5ab3
Source notes (4)
- Unreviewed is an editorial label, not an investigation status. API-sourced is not report-checked or human-reviewed. Explicit event totals are used without summing aircraft injury tables; onboard allocation is withheld. Unknown values remain unknown. The operation category is mapped from the NTSB-reported FAR part and has not been reviewed.
- Filled from the NTSB case API where the bulk record had no value: investigation status, cause areas. Values present in the bulk record are kept.
- The date is the local date, which is the same as the UTC date the NTSB stores.
- API snapshot SHA-256: 31739f75a31464dc20c2890b0fafbabfe31e729a306c5b15555c97879d9bb9ec; retrieved 2026-09-16T16:24:33.737Z.