NYC83IA013 · Piper J3C-65
Balloon Drifters Piper J3C-65 and Cessna 172E · Incident: on ground/water collision with object while taxiing
Event
- NTSB case
- NYC83IA013
- Event typeAccident: someone killed or seriously injured, or the aircraft substantially damaged (NTSB definition). Incident: an occurrence that affected or could have affected safety, short of that. Glossary
- Incident
- InvestigationHow far the investigation had got when the record was published: preliminary, ongoing, final or completed. Unknown where the source does not say. Glossary
- Completed
- API-reported fatalities
- 0 · all aircraft and ground
- Ground fatalities
- 0
- OperationWhat kind of flying it was, grouped by the rules it flew under: airline (US Part 121), air taxi and commuter (Part 135), general aviation (Part 91 and similar), military or government. Glossary
- General aviation
- WeatherVisual meteorological conditions (VMC): good enough to fly by looking outside. Instrument conditions (IMC): cloud or low visibility, flying by instruments. Glossary
- Visual Meteorological Cond
Aircraft 1 · Piper J3C-65
- Aircraft type
- Piper J3
- Category
- Airplane
- RegistrationThe aircraft's tail number, such as N12345 or G-ABCD. Registrations are reissued, so the same one years apart can be a different aircraft. Glossary
- N25973
- Operator
- Balloon Drifters
- Onboard fatalities
- Unknown
- Route
- From Augusta State Airport (AUG), Augusta, METo Augusta State Airport (AUG), Augusta, ME
- Aircraft age
- Not recorded
- Flight rulesThe regulations the flight operated under: in the US, Part 91 (general aviation), Part 121 (airlines), Part 135 (air taxi and commuter) and others; for flights abroad, the NTSB's coarser commercial or non-commercial code. Glossary
- Part 91: General Aviation
- Phase of flightThe stage of the flight when things started to go wrong: standing, taxi, takeoff, initial climb, en route, maneuvering, approach or landing. Glossary
- Taxi · from runway
- First occurrenceThe single coded event the NTSB judges best describes what happened (records from 2008 on). Older records name the first occurrence in the sequence instead. Glossary
- On ground/water collision with object
- DamageDestroyed: beyond practical repair. Substantial: damage that affects the structure, performance or handling and normally needs major repair. Minor: less than that. Glossary
- Minor
Aircraft 2 · Cessna 172E
- Aircraft type
- Cessna 172
- Category
- Airplane
- RegistrationThe aircraft's tail number, such as N12345 or G-ABCD. Registrations are reissued, so the same one years apart can be a different aircraft. Glossary
- N5742T
- Operator
- Peter Murphy
- Onboard fatalities
- Unknown
- Route
- From Augusta State Airport (AUG), Augusta, METo Augusta State Airport (AUG), Augusta, ME
- Aircraft age
- Not recorded
- Flight rulesThe regulations the flight operated under: in the US, Part 91 (general aviation), Part 121 (airlines), Part 135 (air taxi and commuter) and others; for flights abroad, the NTSB's coarser commercial or non-commercial code. Glossary
- Part 91: General Aviation
- Phase of flightThe stage of the flight when things started to go wrong: standing, taxi, takeoff, initial climb, en route, maneuvering, approach or landing. Glossary
- Taxi · to runway
- First occurrenceThe single coded event the NTSB judges best describes what happened (records from 2008 on). Older records name the first occurrence in the sequence instead. Glossary
- On ground/water collision with object
- DamageDestroyed: beyond practical repair. Substantial: damage that affects the structure, performance or handling and normally needs major repair. Minor: less than that. Glossary
- Minor
Cause areas
- Dual student › Visual lookout, inadequate
- Pilot in command(cfi) › Maneuver, not performed
- Pilot in command(cfi) › Supervision, inadequate
- Pilot of other aircraft › Maneuver, not performed
- Pilot of other aircraft › Visual lookout, inadequate
Approximate · Estimated position: the centre of Augusta, ME, the place the record names. Not the accident site.
NTSB narrative
THE STUDENT AND FLIGHT INSTRUCTOR (CFI) OF CESSNA 172, N5742T, STARTED TO TAXI WHILE THE STUDENT AND CFI OF PIPER JC3-65, N25973, WERE LANDING. THE CESSNA AIRCREW SAW THE PIPER LAND AND TURN OFF ONTO THE SAME TAXIWAY THAT THEY WERE ON, BUT FROM THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION. THEY STOPPED THE CESSNA ON THE EDGE OF THE TAXIWAY WITH THE RIGHT WHEEL JUST ON THE PAVEMENT TO MAKE ROOM FOR THE OTHER PLANE TO PASS. THE PIPER (WITH NO RADIO) WAS S-TURNING SO AS TO SEE AHEAD. THE CFI OF THE PIPER STATED THAT HE HAD UNBUCKLED AND PULLED HIMSELF UP TWICE TO LOOK OVER THE TOP OF THE DASHBOARD, BUT SAW NOTHING AHEAD. THE CFI OF THE CESSNA STATED THAT WHEN THE PIPER WAS ABOUT 200 FT AWAY, IT TURNED AS THOUGH TO PASS, BUT WHEN IT WAS ABOUT 50 FT AWAY, IT CHANGED DIRECTIONS AND RAN INTO HIS AIRCRAFT. HE STATED THAT THE CESSNA WAS STOPPED WITH THE BRAKES ON FOR ABOUT 20 SEC BEFORE THE COLLISION. BOTH AIRCRAFT RECEIVED ONLY MINOR DAMAGE.
Verbatim NTSB analysis from the NTSB dataset
Sources
NTSB record NYC83IA013
- Event ID
- 20020917X05072
- Case number
- NYC83IA013
- Dataset
- historical-pre2008
- Source SHA-256
- 89e2df6d848e7ab3b42e7d7c7a03ff403303057a26ca04c95b3ea67201c3ce74
Source notes (4)
- Unreviewed is an editorial label, not an investigation status. API-sourced is not report-checked or human-reviewed. Explicit event totals are used without summing aircraft injury tables; onboard allocation is withheld. Unknown values remain unknown. The operation category is mapped from the NTSB-reported FAR part and has not been reviewed.
- Filled from the NTSB case API where the bulk record had no value: investigation status. Values present in the bulk record are kept.
- The date is the local date, which is the same as the UTC date the NTSB stores.
- API snapshot SHA-256: e4bd8e9a2bd4e09210e59dc8f654991ab5967156034386fcdf929e223f29f5d4; retrieved 2026-09-24T00:19:42.512Z.