LAX84LA009 · North American SNJ-2
North American SNJ-2 and North American SNJ-2 · Accident: on ground/water collision with object while standing
Event
- NTSB case
- LAX84LA009
- Event typeAccident: someone killed or seriously injured, or the aircraft substantially damaged (NTSB definition). Incident: an occurrence that affected or could have affected safety, short of that. Glossary
- Accident
- InvestigationHow far the investigation had got when the record was published: preliminary, ongoing, final or completed. Unknown where the source does not say. Glossary
- Completed
- API-reported fatalities
- 0 · all aircraft and ground
- Ground fatalities
- 0
- OperationWhat kind of flying it was, grouped by the rules it flew under: airline (US Part 121), air taxi and commuter (Part 135), general aviation (Part 91 and similar), military or government. Glossary
- General aviation
- WeatherVisual meteorological conditions (VMC): good enough to fly by looking outside. Instrument conditions (IMC): cloud or low visibility, flying by instruments. Glossary
- Visual Meteorological Cond
Aircraft 1 · North American SNJ-2
- Aircraft type
- North American SNJ-2
- Category
- Airplane
- RegistrationThe aircraft's tail number, such as N12345 or G-ABCD. Registrations are reissued, so the same one years apart can be a different aircraft. Glossary
- N61563
- Operator
- Unknown
- Onboard fatalities
- Unknown
- Route
- From Long Beach International Airport (LGB), Long Beach, CATo not recorded
- Aircraft age
- Not recorded
- Flight rulesThe regulations the flight operated under: in the US, Part 91 (general aviation), Part 121 (airlines), Part 135 (air taxi and commuter) and others; for flights abroad, the NTSB's coarser commercial or non-commercial code. Glossary
- Part 91: General Aviation
- Phase of flightThe stage of the flight when things started to go wrong: standing, taxi, takeoff, initial climb, en route, maneuvering, approach or landing. Glossary
- Standing · engine(s) operating
- First occurrenceThe single coded event the NTSB judges best describes what happened (records from 2008 on). Older records name the first occurrence in the sequence instead. Glossary
- On ground/water collision with object
- DamageDestroyed: beyond practical repair. Substantial: damage that affects the structure, performance or handling and normally needs major repair. Minor: less than that. Glossary
- Substantial
Aircraft 2 · North American SNJ-2
- Aircraft type
- North American SNJ-2
- Category
- Airplane
- RegistrationThe aircraft's tail number, such as N12345 or G-ABCD. Registrations are reissued, so the same one years apart can be a different aircraft. Glossary
- N60645
- Operator
- Unknown
- Onboard fatalities
- Unknown
- Route
- From Long Beach International Airport (LGB), Long Beach, CATo not recorded
- Aircraft age
- Not recorded
- Flight rulesThe regulations the flight operated under: in the US, Part 91 (general aviation), Part 121 (airlines), Part 135 (air taxi and commuter) and others; for flights abroad, the NTSB's coarser commercial or non-commercial code. Glossary
- Part 91: General Aviation
- Phase of flightThe stage of the flight when things started to go wrong: standing, taxi, takeoff, initial climb, en route, maneuvering, approach or landing. Glossary
- Taxi · from runway
- First occurrenceThe single coded event the NTSB judges best describes what happened (records from 2008 on). Older records name the first occurrence in the sequence instead. Glossary
- On ground/water collision with object
- DamageDestroyed: beyond practical repair. Substantial: damage that affects the structure, performance or handling and normally needs major repair. Minor: less than that. Glossary
- Substantial
Cause areas
- Pilot in command › Visual lookout, inadequate
- Pilot of other aircraft › Visual lookout, inadequate
Approximate · Coordinates as recorded by the NTSB; no uncertainty radius is established.
NTSB narrative
A FLT OF 5 NORTH AMERICAN SNJ-2 ACFT WERE ON A FLT FROM LONG BEACH TO FRESNO, CA. BY PRIOR ARRANGEMENT, THE LEAD PLT IN N61563 WAS TO HANDLE THE RADIO COMMUNICATION WITH ATC FACILITIES. DURING ARRIVAL AT FRESNO, THE LOCAL CONTROLLER INQUIRED WHETHER THE GROUP DESIRED TO BE HANDLED AS A FLT. THE LEADER RESPONDED THAT THE ACFT 'WILL LAND INDIVIDUALLY.' THEREAFTER #1 RECEIVED CLEARANCE TO LAND ON RWY 29R. DURING THE LANDING, THE #1 PLT TURNED OFF ON HI SPEED TAXIWAY 'M', BUT WAS INSTRUCTED TO HOLD SHORT OF RWY 29L. HE ACKNOWLEDGED & COMPLIED WITH THE INSTRUCTION. THE #2 PLT IN N60645 ALSO LANDED ON RWY 29R, ABOUT 2000 TO 3000 FT BEHIND #1. HE TOO TURNED OFF ON HI SPEED TAXIWAY 'M', BUT DID NOT HEAR THE HOLDING INSTRUCTION THAT WAS ISSUED TO N61563. SINCE THE PLT (#2) OF THE TAILWHEEL EQUIPPED ACFT HAD A BLIND AREA OVER HIS NOSE, HE DID NOT REALIZE HE WAS CONVERGING ON #1. SUBSEQUENTLY, #2 (N60645) COLLIDED WITH #1 (N6L563) FROM THE REAR.THE LOCAL CONTROLLER DID NOT INFORM THE PLT OF N60645 THAT HE WAS CONVERGING ON N61563.
Verbatim NTSB analysis from the NTSB dataset
Sources
NTSB record LAX84LA009
- Event ID
- 20001214X44879
- Case number
- LAX84LA009
- Dataset
- historical-pre2008
- Source SHA-256
- 89e2df6d848e7ab3b42e7d7c7a03ff403303057a26ca04c95b3ea67201c3ce74
Source notes (4)
- Unreviewed is an editorial label, not an investigation status. API-sourced is not report-checked or human-reviewed. Explicit event totals are used without summing aircraft injury tables; onboard allocation is withheld. Unknown values remain unknown. The operation category is mapped from the NTSB-reported FAR part and has not been reviewed.
- Filled from the NTSB case API where the bulk record had no value: local date, investigation status. Values present in the bulk record are kept.
- The date is the local date; the NTSB stores the UTC date 1983-10-09.
- API snapshot SHA-256: 416db636dfcf5b6bc76849015846378463e3decb778a73d2d539fa929936a974; retrieved 2026-09-23T21:14:39.492Z.