NYC08LA281 · Roberto P. Garcia Nieuport 24bis
Roberto P. Garcia Nieuport 24bis · Accident: aerodynamic stall/spin while maneuvering
From Old Rhinebeck Aerodrome (NY94) to Old Rhinebeck Aerodrome (NY94)
Event
- NTSB case
- NYC08LA281
- Event typeAccident: someone killed or seriously injured, or the aircraft substantially damaged (NTSB definition). Incident: an occurrence that affected or could have affected safety, short of that. Glossary
- Accident
- InvestigationHow far the investigation had got when the record was published: preliminary, ongoing, final or completed. Unknown where the source does not say. Glossary
- Completed
- API-reported fatalities
- 1 · all aircraft and ground
- Ground fatalities
- Unknown
- OperationWhat kind of flying it was, grouped by the rules it flew under: airline (US Part 121), air taxi and commuter (Part 135), general aviation (Part 91 and similar), military or government. Glossary
- General aviation
- WeatherVisual meteorological conditions (VMC): good enough to fly by looking outside. Instrument conditions (IMC): cloud or low visibility, flying by instruments. Glossary
- Visual Meteorological Cond
Roberto P. Garcia Nieuport 24bis
- Aircraft type
- Roberto P Garcia NIEUPORT 24
- Category
- Airplane
- RegistrationThe aircraft's tail number, such as N12345 or G-ABCD. Registrations are reissued, so the same one years apart can be a different aircraft. Glossary
- N5246
- Operator
- Old Rhinebeck Aerodrome
- Onboard fatalities
- Unknown
- Route
- From Old Rhinebeck Aerodrome (NY94), Rhinebeck, NYTo Old Rhinebeck Aerodrome (NY94)
- Aircraft age
- Not recorded
- Flight rulesThe regulations the flight operated under: in the US, Part 91 (general aviation), Part 121 (airlines), Part 135 (air taxi and commuter) and others; for flights abroad, the NTSB's coarser commercial or non-commercial code. Glossary
- Part 91: General Aviation
- Phase of flightThe stage of the flight when things started to go wrong: standing, taxi, takeoff, initial climb, en route, maneuvering, approach or landing. Glossary
- Maneuvering · low-altitude flying
- Defining eventThe single coded event the NTSB judges best describes what happened (records from 2008 on). Older records name the first occurrence in the sequence instead. Glossary
- Aerodynamic stall/spin
- DamageDestroyed: beyond practical repair. Substantial: damage that affects the structure, performance or handling and normally needs major repair. Minor: less than that. Glossary
- Substantial
Cause areas
- Aircraft › Aircraft oper/perf/capability
- Personnel issues › Task performance
Approximate · Coordinates as recorded by the NTSB; no uncertainty radius is established.
NTSB narrative
The accident flight was a two-airplane aerial demonstration of World War I vintage aircraft simulating a "dogfight," with the entire flight conducted at an altitude about 300 feet above ground level. While maneuvering with the other airplane, the accident airplane entered a "3 turn spin to the left" before it impacted trees and terrain. The wreckage was consumed in a postimpact fire. Examination of the wreckage did not reveal evidence of any preimpact mechanical malfunctions or failures. The airline-transport-rated pilot had over 3,800 total hours of flight experience and had logged about 5 hours of flight experience in the accident airplane make and model.
Probable cause
The pilot's failure to maintain control of the airplane while maneuvering, resulting in an aerodynamic stall and spin.
Verbatim NTSB analysis and probable cause from the NTSB dataset
Sources
NTSB record NYC08LA281
- Event ID
- 20080826X01317
- Case number
- NYC08LA281
- Dataset
- full-current
- Source SHA-256
- 5cf380f0061817c0331a6b2d8cc7e0ee3a79bea469a1001dc5c10e56f35f5ab3
Source notes (4)
- Unreviewed is an editorial label, not an investigation status. API-sourced is not report-checked or human-reviewed. Explicit event totals are used without summing aircraft injury tables; onboard allocation is withheld. Unknown values remain unknown. The operation category is mapped from the NTSB-reported FAR part and has not been reviewed.
- Filled from the NTSB case API where the bulk record had no value: investigation status. Values present in the bulk record are kept.
- The date is the local date, which is the same as the UTC date the NTSB stores.
- API snapshot SHA-256: 04675e06cfe61d20f55246156f9c1ba2d9e37358788509373eb42f80e5053125; retrieved 2026-09-13T19:24:11.253Z.