NYC82FFA05 · Navion A
Navion A · Accident: in flight collision with terrain/water during initial climb
From Hancock, NY to Danbury, CT
Event
- NTSB case
- NYC82FFA05
- Event typeAccident: someone killed or seriously injured, or the aircraft substantially damaged (NTSB definition). Incident: an occurrence that affected or could have affected safety, short of that. Glossary
- Accident
- InvestigationHow far the investigation had got when the record was published: preliminary, ongoing, final or completed. Unknown where the source does not say. Glossary
- Completed
- API-reported fatalities
- 0 · all aircraft and ground
- Ground fatalities
- 0
- OperationWhat kind of flying it was, grouped by the rules it flew under: airline (US Part 121), air taxi and commuter (Part 135), general aviation (Part 91 and similar), military or government. Glossary
- General aviation
- WeatherVisual meteorological conditions (VMC): good enough to fly by looking outside. Instrument conditions (IMC): cloud or low visibility, flying by instruments. Glossary
- Visual Meteorological Cond
Navion A
- Aircraft type
- Navion A
- Category
- Airplane
- RegistrationThe aircraft's tail number, such as N12345 or G-ABCD. Registrations are reissued, so the same one years apart can be a different aircraft. Glossary
- N91662
- Operator
- Joseph J. Schnider · private individual
- Onboard fatalities
- Unknown
- Route
- From Hancock, NYTo Danbury, CT
- Aircraft age
- Not recorded
- Flight rulesThe regulations the flight operated under: in the US, Part 91 (general aviation), Part 121 (airlines), Part 135 (air taxi and commuter) and others; for flights abroad, the NTSB's coarser commercial or non-commercial code. Glossary
- Part 91: General Aviation
- Phase of flightThe stage of the flight when things started to go wrong: standing, taxi, takeoff, initial climb, en route, maneuvering, approach or landing. Glossary
- Initial climb
- First occurrenceThe single coded event the NTSB judges best describes what happened (records from 2008 on). Older records name the first occurrence in the sequence instead. Glossary
- In flight collision with terrain/water
- Also codedOther events the NTSB coded in the sequence, such as a wire strike after a loss of power. Flight Findings uses them for its kinds of event. Glossary
- Stall/mush
- DamageDestroyed: beyond practical repair. Substantial: damage that affects the structure, performance or handling and normally needs major repair. Minor: less than that. Glossary
- Substantial
Cause areas
- Hydraulic system › Undetermined
Approximate · Estimated position: the centre of Hancock, NY, the place the record names. Not the accident site.
NTSB narrative
THE PILOT REPORTED THAT DURING TAKEOFF, HE CLIMBED TO ABOUT 20 TO 30 FT AND RAISED THE GEAR. AT ABOUT THAT TIME, THE AIRCRAFT BEGAN TO SINK. HE STATED THAT HE PULLED THE POWER OFF JUST BEFORE THE AIRCRAFT HIT THE GROUND A FEW MILES FROM THE AIRPORT. AN INVESTIGATION REVEALED THAT THE FLAPS WERE NOT DAMAGED, AS IF THEY WERE NOT EXTENDED DURING IMPACT. HOWEVER, THE FLAP CONTROL WAS FOUND IN THE DOWN POSITION. THE FLAPS WERE FOUND ABOUT 20 DEG DOWN AND THE FLAP INDICATOR WAS INDICATING ABOUT 1/3 DOWN. THE INVESTIGATOR CAPPED OFF A BROKEN LANDING GEAR HYDRAULIC LINE AND FILLED THE HYDRAULIC RESERVOIR, BUT THE HAND PUMP WOULD NOT OPERATE DUE TO AIR IN THE SYSTEM THE ENGINE WAS THEN RUN, AND AFTER THAT, THE HYDRAULIC SYSTEM OPERATED NORMALLY. THE PILOT SUSPECTED THAT THE FLAPS CAME UP WHEN HE RAISED THE GEAR AFTER TAKEOFF. THIS AIRCRAFT WAS EQUIPPED WITH A FLAP SYSTEM THAT WAS TO BE SET EITHER FULL UP OF FULL DOWN. AN INTERMEDIATE SELECTION WOULD NOT INSURE A POSITIVE SELECTED POSITION.
Verbatim NTSB analysis from the NTSB dataset
Sources
NTSB record NYC82FFA05
- Event ID
- 20020917X04033
- Case number
- NYC82FFA05
- Dataset
- historical-pre2008
- Source SHA-256
- 89e2df6d848e7ab3b42e7d7c7a03ff403303057a26ca04c95b3ea67201c3ce74
Source notes (4)
- Unreviewed is an editorial label, not an investigation status. API-sourced is not report-checked or human-reviewed. Explicit event totals are used without summing aircraft injury tables; onboard allocation is withheld. Unknown values remain unknown. The operation category is mapped from the NTSB-reported FAR part and has not been reviewed.
- Filled from the NTSB case API where the bulk record had no value: investigation status. Values present in the bulk record are kept.
- The date is the local date, which is the same as the UTC date the NTSB stores.
- API snapshot SHA-256: 7ba9bc44cbf6719fe00a5f42a95882e1fd143952c41caeb92c7e93176ada1c5e; retrieved 2026-09-21T18:15:38.528Z.