LAX84FA005 · Cessna 175B
Cessna 175B · Accident: in flight encounter with weather en route
From Big Bear City Airport (L35) to Hollywood Burbank/Bob Hope Airport (BUR)
Event
- NTSB case
- LAX84FA005
- Event typeAccident: someone killed or seriously injured, or the aircraft substantially damaged (NTSB definition). Incident: an occurrence that affected or could have affected safety, short of that. Glossary
- Accident
- InvestigationHow far the investigation had got when the record was published: preliminary, ongoing, final or completed. Unknown where the source does not say. Glossary
- Completed
- API-reported fatalities
- 1 · all aircraft and ground
- Ground fatalities
- 0
- OperationWhat kind of flying it was, grouped by the rules it flew under: airline (US Part 121), air taxi and commuter (Part 135), general aviation (Part 91 and similar), military or government. Glossary
- General aviation
- WeatherVisual meteorological conditions (VMC): good enough to fly by looking outside. Instrument conditions (IMC): cloud or low visibility, flying by instruments. Glossary
- Unknown
Cessna 175B
- Aircraft type
- Cessna 175
- Category
- Airplane
- RegistrationThe aircraft's tail number, such as N12345 or G-ABCD. Registrations are reissued, so the same one years apart can be a different aircraft. Glossary
- N8146T
- Operator
- Unknown
- Onboard fatalities
- Unknown
- Route
- From Big Bear City Airport (L35), BIG BEAR, CATo Hollywood Burbank/Bob Hope Airport (BUR), Burbank, CA
- Aircraft age
- Not recorded
- Flight rulesThe regulations the flight operated under: in the US, Part 91 (general aviation), Part 121 (airlines), Part 135 (air taxi and commuter) and others; for flights abroad, the NTSB's coarser commercial or non-commercial code. Glossary
- Part 91: General Aviation
- Phase of flightThe stage of the flight when things started to go wrong: standing, taxi, takeoff, initial climb, en route, maneuvering, approach or landing. Glossary
- En route · cruise
- First occurrenceThe single coded event the NTSB judges best describes what happened (records from 2008 on). Older records name the first occurrence in the sequence instead. Glossary
- In flight encounter with weather
- Also codedOther events the NTSB coded in the sequence, such as a wire strike after a loss of power. Flight Findings uses them for its kinds of event. Glossary
- Visual flight rules (VFR) flight into instrument meteorological conditions (IMC)
- DamageDestroyed: beyond practical repair. Substantial: damage that affects the structure, performance or handling and normally needs major repair. Minor: less than that. Glossary
- Destroyed
Cause areas
- Pilot in command › VFR flight into imc, continued
Approximate · Coordinates as recorded by the NTSB; no uncertainty radius is established.
NTSB narrative
RELATIVES EXPECTED THE PLT TO RETURN HOME ON THE EVENING OF 10/4/83. WHEN HE DID NOT RETURN, RELATIVES REPORT THE ACFT WAS OVERDUE. THE ACFT WAS FOUND WHERE IT COLLIDED WITH A MOUNTAIN AT AN ELEVATION OF ABOUT 3580 FT, 10 MI NORTH OF THE DESTINATION ARPT. THERE WERE NO KNOWN WITNEESES TO THE ACCIDENT. THERE WAS EVIDENCE THE ACFT HAD DEPARTED BIG BEAR, CA AT ABOUT 1715 PDT. ABOUT 15 MI WEST OF THE ACCIDENT SITE, A PERSON SAW AN ACFT, MATCHING THE DESCRIPTION OF N8146T. ACCORDING TO HER, THE ACFT WAS OVER INTERSTATE 5, HEADED TOWARD BURBANK, CA. IN HER OPINION, THE PLT WAS TRYING TO GET OVER NEWHALL PASS, CIRCLED 3 OR 4 TIMES. THEN DEPARTED TO THE EAST. SHE REPORTED INTERMITTENT RAIN & ABOUT 1000 FT CEILING. AT ABOUT 1830, AN ATP PLT REPORTED THUNDERSTORM ACTIVITY OVER THE MOUNTAINS. AT 1845, THE WX AT BURBANK WAS 1300 FT OVERCAST, 4 MI VISIBILITY WITH HAZE. THE ELEVATION OF THE BURBANK ARPT WAS ABOUT 3000 FT LOWER THAN THE ACCIDENT SITE. NO RECORD OF A PREFLT WX BRIEFING WAS FOUND. IMPACT OCCURRED ON 50 DEG RISING TERRAIN.
Verbatim NTSB analysis from the NTSB dataset
Sources
NTSB record LAX84FA005
- Event ID
- 20001214X44863
- Case number
- LAX84FA005
- Dataset
- historical-pre2008
- Source SHA-256
- 89e2df6d848e7ab3b42e7d7c7a03ff403303057a26ca04c95b3ea67201c3ce74
Source notes (4)
- Unreviewed is an editorial label, not an investigation status. API-sourced is not report-checked or human-reviewed. Explicit event totals are used without summing aircraft injury tables; onboard allocation is withheld. Unknown values remain unknown. The operation category is mapped from the NTSB-reported FAR part and has not been reviewed.
- Filled from the NTSB case API where the bulk record had no value: local date, investigation status. Values present in the bulk record are kept.
- The date is the local date; the NTSB stores the UTC date 1983-10-05.
- API snapshot SHA-256: c5c6197538102eadd873c032c9d4d2c63366c3df318700633194e399a03f7c3c; retrieved 2026-09-21T06:04:02.021Z.