NYC83FA098 · Piper PA-28-181
Piper PA-28-181 · Accident: loss of control in flight on approach
From Newport News Williamsburg International Airport (PHF) to N67
Event
- NTSB case
- NYC83FA098
- Event typeAccident: someone killed or seriously injured, or the aircraft substantially damaged (NTSB definition). Incident: an occurrence that affected or could have affected safety, short of that. Glossary
- Accident
- InvestigationHow far the investigation had got when the record was published: preliminary, ongoing, final or completed. Unknown where the source does not say. Glossary
- Completed
- API-reported fatalities
- 1 · all aircraft and ground
- Ground fatalities
- 0
- OperationWhat kind of flying it was, grouped by the rules it flew under: airline (US Part 121), air taxi and commuter (Part 135), general aviation (Part 91 and similar), military or government. Glossary
- General aviation
- WeatherVisual meteorological conditions (VMC): good enough to fly by looking outside. Instrument conditions (IMC): cloud or low visibility, flying by instruments. Glossary
- Visual Meteorological Cond
Piper PA-28-181
- Aircraft type
- Piper PA-28
- Category
- Airplane
- RegistrationThe aircraft's tail number, such as N12345 or G-ABCD. Registrations are reissued, so the same one years apart can be a different aircraft. Glossary
- N8167K
- Operator
- Unknown
- Onboard fatalities
- Unknown
- Route
- From Newport News Williamsburg International Airport (PHF), Newport News, VATo N67
- Aircraft age
- Not recorded
- Flight rulesThe regulations the flight operated under: in the US, Part 91 (general aviation), Part 121 (airlines), Part 135 (air taxi and commuter) and others; for flights abroad, the NTSB's coarser commercial or non-commercial code. Glossary
- Part 91: General Aviation
- Phase of flightThe stage of the flight when things started to go wrong: standing, taxi, takeoff, initial climb, en route, maneuvering, approach or landing. Glossary
- Approach · VFR go-around
- First occurrenceThe single coded event the NTSB judges best describes what happened (records from 2008 on). Older records name the first occurrence in the sequence instead. Glossary
- Loss of control in flight
- Also codedOther events the NTSB coded in the sequence, such as a wire strike after a loss of power. Flight Findings uses them for its kinds of event. Glossary
- Stall
- DamageDestroyed: beyond practical repair. Substantial: damage that affects the structure, performance or handling and normally needs major repair. Minor: less than that. Glossary
- Destroyed
Cause areas
- Aircraft performance, landing capability › Exceeded
- Pilot in command › Airspeed, not maintained
- Pilot in command › Compensation for wind conditions, not possible
- Pilot in command › Performance data, not followed
Approximate · Coordinates as recorded by the NTSB; no uncertainty radius is established.
NTSB narrative
THE PLT HAD BEEN BRIEFED ON FORECAST STRONG WINDS & A SIGMET FOR MODERATE TO SEVERE TURBULENCE. WITNESSES OBSERVED THE ACFT MAKE A SERIES OF APPROACHES TO RWY 24. ON THE 1ST APPROACH THE ACFT WAS ALMOST OVER THE THRESHOLD AS THE BASE TURN WAS COMPLETED. THE WINGS WERE ROCKING FROM SIDE TO SIDE. WIND WAS OUT OF THE NORTH WITH THE WINDSOCK FULLY EXTENDED PERPENDICULAR TO THE RWY. DURING THE GO-AROUND THE ACFT WAS OBSERVED CRABBING INTO THE WIND. DOWNWIND FOR THE 2ND APPROACH WAS EXTENDED, HOWEVER, THE ACFT WAS 50-100 FT AGL AT THE THRESHOLD. A 2ND GO-AROUND WAS INITIATED 1/3 DOWN THE RWY. THE DOWNWIND LEG FOR THE 3RD APPROACH WAS EXTENDED EVEN FURTHER. THE APPROACH APPEARED TO BE SLOW. THE 3RD GO- AROUND WAS INITIATED 100-150 FT AGL NEAR THE APPROACH END OF THE RWY. A SLOW CLIMBING TURN WAS MADE TO THE LEFT. AS THE ACFT BEGAN A 2ND CIRCLE THE NOSE PITCHED UP & THE ACFT STALLED. LINE PERSONNEL ESTIMATED THE WINDS AS 350 DEG AT 20 KTS GUSTING 28 KTS.
Verbatim NTSB analysis from the NTSB dataset
Sources
NTSB record NYC83FA098
- Event ID
- 20001214X42795
- Case number
- NYC83FA098
- Dataset
- historical-pre2008
- Source SHA-256
- 89e2df6d848e7ab3b42e7d7c7a03ff403303057a26ca04c95b3ea67201c3ce74
Source notes (4)
- Unreviewed is an editorial label, not an investigation status. API-sourced is not report-checked or human-reviewed. Explicit event totals are used without summing aircraft injury tables; onboard allocation is withheld. Unknown values remain unknown. The operation category is mapped from the NTSB-reported FAR part and has not been reviewed.
- Filled from the NTSB case API where the bulk record had no value: investigation status. Values present in the bulk record are kept.
- The date is the local date, which is the same as the UTC date the NTSB stores.
- API snapshot SHA-256: ae6cda873c91c4064b080f08d68b80d853bc3bed41084df0b7e4ef5061aa237c; retrieved 2026-09-21T06:54:35.271Z.