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FTW85LA325 · Piper PA-28-181

17 Aug 1985 · Llano, TX, United States

Piper PA-28-181 · Accident: total loss of engine power (non-mechanical) on approach

From Addison Airport (ADS) to Lakeway Airpark (3R9)

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Event

NTSB case
FTW85LA325
Event typeAccident: someone killed or seriously injured, or the aircraft substantially damaged (NTSB definition). Incident: an occurrence that affected or could have affected safety, short of that. Glossary
Accident
InvestigationHow far the investigation had got when the record was published: preliminary, ongoing, final or completed. Unknown where the source does not say. Glossary
Completed
API-reported fatalities
0 · all aircraft and ground
Ground fatalities
0
OperationWhat kind of flying it was, grouped by the rules it flew under: airline (US Part 121), air taxi and commuter (Part 135), general aviation (Part 91 and similar), military or government. Glossary
General aviation
WeatherVisual meteorological conditions (VMC): good enough to fly by looking outside. Instrument conditions (IMC): cloud or low visibility, flying by instruments. Glossary
Visual Meteorological Cond

Piper PA-28-181

Aircraft type
Piper PA-28
Category
Airplane
RegistrationThe aircraft's tail number, such as N12345 or G-ABCD. Registrations are reissued, so the same one years apart can be a different aircraft. Glossary
N2217G
Operator
Unknown
Onboard fatalities
Unknown
Route
From Addison Airport (ADS), Dallas, TXTo Lakeway Airpark (3R9), Austin, TX
Aircraft age
Not recorded
Flight rulesThe regulations the flight operated under: in the US, Part 91 (general aviation), Part 121 (airlines), Part 135 (air taxi and commuter) and others; for flights abroad, the NTSB's coarser commercial or non-commercial code. Glossary
Part 91: General Aviation
Phase of flightThe stage of the flight when things started to go wrong: standing, taxi, takeoff, initial climb, en route, maneuvering, approach or landing. Glossary
Approach · VFR pattern downwind
First occurrenceThe single coded event the NTSB judges best describes what happened (records from 2008 on). Older records name the first occurrence in the sequence instead. Glossary
Total loss of engine power (non-mechanical)
Also codedOther events the NTSB coded in the sequence, such as a wire strike after a loss of power. Flight Findings uses them for its kinds of event. Glossary
Fuel exhaustion
DamageDestroyed: beyond practical repair. Substantial: damage that affects the structure, performance or handling and normally needs major repair. Minor: less than that. Glossary
Substantial

Cause areas

  • Fluid, fuel › Exhaustion
  • Pilot in command › Flare, improper
  • Pilot in command › Fuel consumption calculations, inaccurate

Approximate · Coordinates as recorded by the NTSB; no uncertainty radius is established.

NTSB narrative

THE PLT STATED HE ENTERED THE TRAFFIC PATTERN AT 2000 FT FOR A LEFT DOWNWIND TO RWY 17. HE THEN REDUCED PWR TO 1700 RPM AND PLACED THE MIXTURE CONTROL INTO THE FULL RICH POSITION. HE ASSURED THAT CARBURETOR HEAT WAS OFF AND THEN STARTED HIS DESCENT. THE ENG THEN BEGAN TO LOSE PWR AND SPUTTER. THROTTLE OPERATION GAVE SURGES OF PWR. HE SWITCHED FUEL TANK POSITIONS BUT COULD NOT GET A RESTART. THE PLT ATTEMPTED TO STRETCH HIS GLIDE TO THE RWY BUT WAS UNABLE. THE ACFT TOUCHED DOWN 200-300 YRDS SHORT OF THE RWY, COLLAPSED THE LANDING GEAR, BOUNCED AND CAME TO REST ABOUT 100 YRDS SHORT OF THE RWY. EXAMINATION BY FAA PERSONNEL REVEALED NO FUEL IN THE TANKS AND NO EVIDENCE OF AN AIRBORNE OR ON GROUND FUEL LEAK. AFTER RECOVERY OF THE WRECKAGE A FUEL SUPPLY WAS CONNECTED TO THE RIGHT HAND INLET OF THE FUEL SELECTOR VALVE. THE ENG WAS STARTED AND NOTED TO BE CAPABLE OF NORMAL OPERATION.

Verbatim NTSB analysis from the NTSB dataset

Sources

NTSB record FTW85LA325
Event ID
20001214X37495
Case number
FTW85LA325
Dataset
historical-pre2008
Source SHA-256
89e2df6d848e7ab3b42e7d7c7a03ff403303057a26ca04c95b3ea67201c3ce74
Source notes (4)
  • Unreviewed is an editorial label, not an investigation status. API-sourced is not report-checked or human-reviewed. Explicit event totals are used without summing aircraft injury tables; onboard allocation is withheld. Unknown values remain unknown. The operation category is mapped from the NTSB-reported FAR part and has not been reviewed.
  • Filled from the NTSB case API where the bulk record had no value: investigation status. Values present in the bulk record are kept.
  • The date is the local date, which is the same as the UTC date the NTSB stores.
  • API snapshot SHA-256: 5add867f251db20d2ed44f42d331df616e882caf839a4a698c1564993d761f4d; retrieved 2026-09-22T01:42:39.593Z.