CHI88DEM03 · Grumman G-164A
Grumman G-164A · Accident: partial loss of engine power (non-mechanical) while maneuvering
From Padgham Field (35D) to 35D
Event
- NTSB case
- CHI88DEM03
- Event typeAccident: someone killed or seriously injured, or the aircraft substantially damaged (NTSB definition). Incident: an occurrence that affected or could have affected safety, short of that. Glossary
- Accident
- InvestigationHow far the investigation had got when the record was published: preliminary, ongoing, final or completed. Unknown where the source does not say. Glossary
- Completed
- API-reported fatalities
- 0 · all aircraft and ground
- Ground fatalities
- 0
- OperationWhat kind of flying it was, grouped by the rules it flew under: airline (US Part 121), air taxi and commuter (Part 135), general aviation (Part 91 and similar), military or government. Glossary
- General aviation
- WeatherVisual meteorological conditions (VMC): good enough to fly by looking outside. Instrument conditions (IMC): cloud or low visibility, flying by instruments. Glossary
- Visual Meteorological Cond
Grumman G-164A
- Aircraft type
- Grumman G-164
- Category
- Airplane
- RegistrationThe aircraft's tail number, such as N12345 or G-ABCD. Registrations are reissued, so the same one years apart can be a different aircraft. Glossary
- N84PG
- Operator
- Unknown
- Onboard fatalities
- Unknown
- Route
- From Padgham Field (35D), Allegan, MITo 35D
- Aircraft age
- Not recorded
- Flight rulesThe regulations the flight operated under: in the US, Part 91 (general aviation), Part 121 (airlines), Part 135 (air taxi and commuter) and others; for flights abroad, the NTSB's coarser commercial or non-commercial code. Glossary
- Part 137: Agricultural
- Phase of flightThe stage of the flight when things started to go wrong: standing, taxi, takeoff, initial climb, en route, maneuvering, approach or landing. Glossary
- Maneuvering · aerial application
- First occurrenceThe single coded event the NTSB judges best describes what happened (records from 2008 on). Older records name the first occurrence in the sequence instead. Glossary
- Partial loss of engine power (non-mechanical)
- DamageDestroyed: beyond practical repair. Substantial: damage that affects the structure, performance or handling and normally needs major repair. Minor: less than that. Glossary
- Substantial
Cause areas
- Pilot in command › Carburetor heat, not used
Approximate · Coordinates as recorded by the NTSB; no uncertainty radius is established.
NTSB narrative
THE PILOT HAD JUST COMPLETED TWO SWATH RUNS AND WAS TURNING TO START THE THIRD WHEN THE AIRCRAFT BEGAN TO BUFFET AND APPROACHED A STALL. THE PILOT THEN LOWERED THE NOSE OF THE AIRCRAFT AND ADDED FULL THROTTLE. AFTER APPLYING FULL THROTTLE THE PILOT STATED HE DID NOT HEAR THE ENGINE RESPOND. AS THE AIRCRAFT APPROACHED THE GROUND THE PILOT STATED HE APPLIED BACK PRESSURE '....SEVERAL TIMES WITH NEAR STALL CONTROL FEELINGS', BUT THE AIRCRAFT CONTINUED IT'S UNCONTROLLED DESCENT AND SUBSEQUENTLY CLIPPED SOME TREES BEFORE IMPACTING THE GROUND. ALTHOUGH A WITNESS STATED HEARING THE ENGINE BACKFIRE SHORTLY BEFORE IMPACT, DURING THE INVESTIGATION NOTHING WAS FOUND MECHANICALLY WRONG WITH THE ENGINE. THE WEATHER CONDITIONS AT THE TIME OF THE ACCIDENT DO CORRELATE WITH THE RANGE OF CONDITIONS ASSOCIATED WITH THE FORMATION OF CARBURETOR ICE, AND THE ENGINE, ACCORDING TO THE PILOT AND WITNESS STATEMENTS, DID EXHIBIT SOME INDICATIONS THAT CARBURETOR ICE MAY HAVE FORMED.
Verbatim NTSB analysis from the NTSB dataset
Sources
NTSB record CHI88DEM03
- Event ID
- 20001213X25421
- Case number
- CHI88DEM03
- Dataset
- historical-pre2008
- Source SHA-256
- 89e2df6d848e7ab3b42e7d7c7a03ff403303057a26ca04c95b3ea67201c3ce74
Source notes (4)
- Unreviewed is an editorial label, not an investigation status. API-sourced is not report-checked or human-reviewed. Explicit event totals are used without summing aircraft injury tables; onboard allocation is withheld. Unknown values remain unknown. The operation category is mapped from the NTSB-reported FAR part and has not been reviewed.
- Filled from the NTSB case API where the bulk record had no value: investigation status. Values present in the bulk record are kept.
- The date is the local date, which is the same as the UTC date the NTSB stores.
- API snapshot SHA-256: c6e60143ffc622d742d30a146592150be4e01d251ca483cccafd76a8c5815c7d; retrieved 2026-09-23T10:37:54.176Z.